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Turning Your Back on an Angel

“Goodbye.”

Amy gasped and blinked hard.  New York at night swam before her eyes.  She rubbed at the tears with the heel of her hand and took a shuddering breath.

Where the Doctor had been just a moment before stood a skinny, black streetlamp.  ”Oh,” she breathed out as she stumbled forward and wrapped her hand around the pole.  She squeezed her eyes shut and let the tears continue to fall.

“Rory!” Amy shouted, hoping so hard that they had ended up in the same time, holding onto the pole for her life.  There was no answer.  She opened her eyes and shouted to the empty street, “Rory!”

She grasped the pole tighter, straining to hear anything that might give her some indication….but there was nothing.  No footsteps, no one said her name.  ”No.  Oh, God, no.”

Amy stumbled away from the pole and started running.   It had all been for nothing.  She’d never see Rory again.  But they jumped off the roof together.  She said goodbye to her daughter and her best friend and turned her back on an Angel.  She and Rory were going to do everything together until the end.  Together or not at all.

Dark buildings and cars blurred past as Amy ran through New York City.  She didn’t even know if she was in the right year.  She wasn’t even sure she was back in New York. 

“Rory!”

She slowed down under a bridge somewhere, her breath echoing loudly.  She fell back against a wall and felt her legs crumple beneath her.  Amy closed her eyes and held her head.  Her heartbeat was in her ears.  She whispered Rory’s name.

“No!”  Someone shouted.  Her eyes opened quickly.

“No!  No, no no!!  We ended you!”

Amy scrambled to stand up.  She tried to say his name, but didn’t seem to have enough air.

“What the - you were gone!  You were gone!  We jumped and there was a paradox and you were DONE!”

Her legs almost gave out and she fell sideways against the wall.  She could see his silhouette against the dim streetlights.

“Oh, you think you’re funny, do you, bringing me back here with your demon babies!  Face me like a man!  Take me back to my wife!”

Amy found her footing and began running.

“Do you hea - ?”  He stopped and she saw him turn.  ”Amy?”

He ran toward her and grabbed her.

“Amy!  Oh my God, Amy!”

She couldn’t hold him tight enough.  ”Rory, my Rory,” she breathed into him.

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Well, since they created a paradox, he definitely didn’t die in the hotel. Amy took a chance hoping that the Angel would send her to the same time, because they didn’t know. But I guess it worked.

Right.  All we know is that they both died in that area and were buried in the same place Rory was buried originally, pre-paradox.  But, post-paradox, it was Amy’s Choice all over again.  And they both still decided to be buried in the same place.  Maybe to let the Doctor know they were together and grew old and died happy.

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my friend has a theory that amy was sent back a couple years earlier than rory and went looking for him until they found each other. so instead of amy outliving rory, they died together

Awww, that’s a wonderful idea. 

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See, my thing is, what if they didn’t go back to New York in 1938? They literally could be anywhere. That’s what’s so sad about the Angels is that you live and die is a time period that’s not your own without your loved ones knowing where.

That’s true, too.  ”Never let him see the damage.”  Amy could have lied in the Afterword.

That could also explain why there aren’t years on the headstone.  Maybe Amy went back to a different time and she knew where Rory was buried and….

I don’t want to think like that :’(

I want to pretend that the Angel that survived tried, single-handedly throughout the years to bring back Winter Quay and was kind of on this angry default-to-1938 rampage and Amy and Rory grew old together.  The headstone changed, so maybe the circumstances of Rory’s death changed (aka. alone and seeing Amy for the first time in years).

hiptomyjive replied to your post: MY favorite plot hole is Im pretty sure the graveyard isnt in Manhattan. You can see the skyline in the backround. So they cant be on the Island of Manhattan. I dont even think theyre in NY. From how the skyline is positioned it would appear that the graveyard is to the west of Manhattan. They arent in New York, theyre in Jersey… and the doctor didnt mention shit about there being too much time distortion in the dirty jerse

the paradox destroyed winter quay, so that timeline didnt happen. I just dont understand if the doctor cant visit or help because they are in NY but they arent?

Yeah, I’m not sure.  Because Winter Quay might have been brought back because the headstone was still there at the end because that one Angel managed to survive.  Either way, in both eventualities (Winter Quay existing at the beginning of the episode and Rory’s headstone being in NJ and then Winter Quay not existing and his headstone still being there at the end), how the heck did they end up being buried in NJ?  

I don’t know how to explain any of it.  There are SO many ways for the Doctor to go back and see them.  UNLESS, Winter Quay was brought back when the Angel sent Rory and Amy back.  If that’s the case, the Doctor would not be able to see them even if he traveled to NJ in the TARDIS and walked into NYC.  Furthermore, the whole jumping off the roof and creating a paradox earlier on in the episode, not only saved Rory from dying alone and giving the Doctor one last chance to be with them, it served as a way of making Amy and Rory realize just how much they need and love each other and providing Amy with the strength she needed to say goodbye to her Raggedy Man and Melody.

And as nice and neat as that sounds in my head, it still doesn’t explain how River can just zap herself to see them (within that theory, she’d visit them in Winter Quay without the Doctor…who can’t?) and not get chased by Angels.

Unless she did evade them and visit her parents at least once or twice in Winter Quay and was, consequently, chased by Angels and that’s part of what was happening in the Crash of the Byzantium.

This is too much.

ahh-magic asked: OH MY GOD, I can't believe I just realized this. But when Amy and Rory are in the graveyard and they're zapped back, it's 2012, right? So they wouldn't have ended up in 1938. They would have ended up in the 1960's. The plot holes just keep stacking up.

It didn’t say what year they died, though.  So they could have gone back to 1938, then died anywhere between the mid-’90s and early 2000s based on how old they said they were back in ‘38.

believeandhow asked: My biggest issue is, okay so the Doctor can't go to New York circa 1938. Well, there are planes and trains and boats, why can't the Ponds use any of those to get to I dunno, Philadelphia, or back to London, or ANYWHERE ELSE ON EARTH THAT THE DOCTOR IS ABLE TO VISIT. For that matter, what's keeping the Doctor from landing outside the city and then heading in with another method of transportation. And why can't River just use her vortex manipulator to get them out, ala Jack in S3. PLOT HOLES.

EXACTLY!!!  Time and the TARDIS are not the only ways to travel!  That’s my problem with it right now.  Unless, Rory and Amy finally made the “Doctor or real life” decision and realized that if they left New York City, they would end up traveling with the Doctor again.  Or, if Winter Quay is back and the Angels have Rory and Amy, they know they can’t get away, so they stay rather than run.

Okay, so I get that the Doctor can’t go back to 1938, but would it perpetuate the paradox if he went back to 1939 or later to see them?

I mean, River can zap herself there whenever she wants.  Would it really be universally illegal for him to go see them sometime between 1938 and their deaths?